US House Democrats try to [b]force[/b] immigration vote

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Re: US House Democrats try to [b]force[/b] immigration vote

Postby nosborne48 » Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:44 pm

Johann's situation is a little different than mine would be, say, if I moved to Mazatlan. The English and Canadian (and lots of other folks) theory of sovereignty is that "Sovereignty resides in the Person of the Queen in Parliament" whereas Mexico and the U.S. state that "Sovereignty resides in the People". This is, amazingly, a non-trivial distinction.

A minor consequence of the distinction is that the Court of St. James and the Government of Canada do not exchange "Ambassadors". Instead, each country is represented in the other by a "High Commissioner" who ranks as an Ambassador but isn't. The reason is that the Queen of Canada is the same Person as the Queen of England and Scotland.

Johann is (probably) a citizen of the UK, a British National, and a Commonwealth citizen. Although he is not a Canadian citizen, nor is he on the same footing as I would be if I moved to the frozen tundra. Both places share a certain kind of nationality and always have.

None of this verbiage is of any real use but if I ever write a J.S.D. dissertation, it will be on some facet of the Canadian vs. U.S. concepts of nationality.
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Re: US House Democrats try to [b]force[/b] immigration vote

Postby Eric » Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:05 pm

nosborne48 wrote:Johann's situation is a little different than mine would be, say, if I moved to Mazatlan. The English and Canadian (and lots of other folks) theory of sovereignty is that "Sovereignty resides in the Person of the Queen in Parliament" whereas Mexico and the U.S. state that "Sovereignty resides in the People". This is, amazingly, a non-trivial distinction.

A minor consequence of the distinction is that the Court of St. James and the Government of Canada do not exchange "Ambassadors". Instead, each country is represented in the other by a "High Commissioner" who ranks as an Ambassador but isn't. The reason is that the Queen of Canada is the same Person as the Queen of England and Scotland.

Johann is (probably) a citizen of the UK, a British National, and a Commonwealth citizen. Although he is not a Canadian citizen, nor is he on the same footing as I would be if I moved to the frozen tundra. Both places share a certain kind of nationality and always have.

None of this verbiage is of any real use but if I ever write a J.S.D. dissertation, it will be on some facet of the Canadian vs. U.S. concepts of nationality.


Another interesting situation is that you can move to Israel and have Israeli citizenship.
Any Jew living a broad is Israeli Citizen by proxy.

I lived there so I'm a dual citizen, I no longer have my Soviet citizenship, but latest activity in Moscow may bring back SU.
Not that I want my SU citizenship.
On my birth certificate I was born in West Ukraine, I'm American.
I love USA and thankful for all that this country gave me and my children. I smaller way we are trying to give back.
Volunteering and my son wile going to University , still hoping to serve in US Air Force or Navy Air Force before taking civilian career as a teacher.
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Re: US House Democrats try to [b]force[/b] immigration vote

Postby johann » Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:21 pm

nosborne48 wrote:Johann is (probably) a citizen of the UK, a British National, and a Commonwealth citizen. Although he is not a Canadian citizen, nor is he on the same footing as I would be if I moved to the frozen tundra. Both places share a certain kind of nationality and always have.

Yes - I am (UK citizen etc). But someone who comes here from anywhere else under the same circumstances (i.e. landed immigrant) would have the same rights, privileges and obligations.

I'd have been a citizen many years ago, if it hadn't been for the incompetence of a government worker. I wanted to do it in 1978 and the first thing I needed was immigration documents. (I was nine years old at the time I came here.) I was told (wrongly) that duplicates (certified copies) couldn't be issued, and I was completely out of luck. I was also told I couldn't get a Social Insurance card without these docs, although I'd had a number - and an ancient pink paper card - since the year Dot!

A couple of decades later, In the 90s I was in a Government office and an old friend of mine was working there. She told me that was all bunk - and here's where I should go for duplicate records. I paid a $35 fee for the records, sent in 48 hours - and $10 for the social insurance card I'd somehow missed out on, at least 25 years before. I still have the documents; I needed them again when it came time to claim my pension.

Still haven't got around to citizenship -- that government pencil-pusher in 1978 rubbed me the wrong way. I'm over it now - maybe it's time. :)
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Re: US House Democrats try to [b]force[/b] immigration vote

Postby Eric » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:56 pm

Rich Douglas wrote:
Eric wrote:
Rich Douglas wrote:Am I mistaken in that one must have worked 40 quarters to earn full Social Security?

Regardless, Social Security payments are highly stimulative to the economy. That's a good thing.


Following this logic we should possibly offer more Social Security payments to every one to keep our economy stimulated .


Yes, that's the idea. Just as the health insurance question could be solved with Medicare for everyone--getting rid of the insurance companies for everyone's basic care--Social Security for everyone would ensure all Americans received sufficient funds to live. Yes, a subsistence wage for everyone, regardless of wealth, income, or work status. Everyone.

America is an amazing place and an economic giant. Those who are currently hoarding wealth accumulated it in part through the efforts of a lot of other people who don't share in it. But they should. We need to shake free a lot of that wealth and get it going back through the economy. By taxing wealth dramatically--not income, wealth--we can then distribute it throughout the economy and get it working. Say goodbye to welfare. Say goodbye to food "stamps." Say goodbye to the Wal-Mart effect, where the retailing behemoth (a) is the country's #1 recipient of food stamp-based spending by consumers and (b) has a very significant proportion of its workforce receiving food stamps because they don't make a living wage. (Food stamps they spend where? Wal-Mart.) Say goodbye to corporate welfare.

We have a wealth distribution problem in this country that now equals the Gilded Age. This "inheritocracy" entrenches a small class of elites, and their place is reinforced by low taxes, especially low inheritance taxes and low capital gains rates. They're just using the rest of us. This imbalance can't be--and shouldn't be--resolved with higher income tax rates. (They're both insufficient and counter-stimulative.) But there's no argument that the accumulation of wealth by the very wealthy in this country is very counter-stimulative, too. They don't invest in the economy. They don't create jobs. They just perpetuate the serfdom they've spent the last 40 years re-creating. Unless you're one of them, you can't possibly be in favor of that.


Here is my view of this. A coin has two sides.

Immoral action in order to increase profits can be done by Capitalism and Socialism as long as unethical people are at driving seat.
Rubbing a successful entrepreneur is completely different from just compensation to workers. In Socialist government corruption is high among leaders. Be it Greece whose officials were bribed or Enron whose top leadership was unethical.
Its different then some report from financial news agency Bloomberg, Goldman Sachs set aside 6.8 billion dollars for bonuses the same year they accepted 10 billion dollars in the Federal Bailout (financed by the American taxpayer).

There are unethical or a better word thief among both sides. Also incompetence that some systems cause.

The Government agencies that handle the food stamps for example are one of the most disorganized, money swallowing agencies that exists.
Employees who are protected by unions are actually not only non productive, they are super counter productive, simply they bring entertainment to work, most do absolutely noting, they mess up, loose cases and sleep at work. I know because a very close relative works in a such place.
Most of the older workers simply pass time so they can get their pensions.

The command method (socialism) has historically been proven a failure when applied to large groups.
Its about a balance,
It is a fact that capitalism in this country has a historical legitimacy that it does not possess elsewhere. In other lands, the nation and its fundamental institutions antedate the capitalist era; in the United States, where democracy a form of government were capitalism and democracy have been organically linked.
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Re: US House Democrats try to [b]force[/b] immigration vote

Postby Eric » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:47 pm

Have you seen the footage of big meeting that radical Islamist had ?
Do you think they are afraid and gone?

Dose who thought so after the election in 2012 even with Osama gone, think again.
The weakness they smell it, Putin also.

If US turn it back on the allies, how harder its going to be for the CIA to recruit agents to infiltrate these radicals and provide good intelligence.

We need a better leadership.
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